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Saying Yes In Push Hands

Just to comment on this, there are two main traditional ways to achieve "Skeletal Freezing" in a push-hands context, and in both of them, it is the opponents who 'freeze' themselves:

One is to "join, adhere, and follow" until the opponent's body says "No" to something, at which point they 'freeze-up' and you throw them out;

The other is to cause the opponent's own attack to 'fall upon emptiness', which causes them to lose their root and balance, which causes them to 'freeze-up', and then you throw them out.

Push-hands is really not about 'doing' or 'cognizing',  so much as about 'being' in and maintaining a certain condition within your own body system; the goal is to have your 'body-mind' say "Yes" to everything your opponent throws at you, while at the same time using your relaxed but alert 'listening' energy to accurately detect the exact moment that his body-system says "No".

Practicing this way, the first person whose body says "No" to something will be the one who is thrown out  -  my teacher used to say, "Self-defense in TCC is really defense against your 'Self ', and push-hands is the training method whereby you learn this fact".

Basically, if you can learn to properly "join, adhere, and follow", your opponent will eventually over-extend his energy, or his body-system will absolutely refuse to accept a certain type of energy from you along a certain 'return' vector, and then  -  he's out of there.

PS: I thought some of you might be amused by my teacher's definition of "join, adhere, and follow":

  • "Join"  =  "Do not oppose" -  when you 'join' an organization, you do not simultaneously 'oppose' that organization; the body-feeling is : "Oh, we're all going 'this' way", and you whole-heartedly go along.
  • "Adhere"  =  No 'Butting', which means using too much pressure, which may 'wake up' your opponent and cause him to 'change'; and no 'Thin-ness', where your connection is too weak for you to accurately follow or neutralize your opponent's energy  -  either 'Butting' or 'Thin-ness' also interferes with your own ability to 'listen' properly.But the essential feeling is that he doesn't feel 'threatened' or as if he's not still 'in charge' of what's going on -  he should always feel as if he's the 'Actor', and you are merely the 'Re-actor'.
  • "Follow"  =  Continuing to apply 'join' and 'adhere' while your opponent travels through a series of 'changes'; when his body-system overextends too far and his balance is compromised, or his body-system says "No" to some form of energy that is 'returned' to him, he will 'stop' himself (or '"freeze-up" , if you prefer), and that's when you issue fa-jin and toss him out.

The words "stick, adhere, and follow", mean the same thing as the descriptions I passed on for "join, adhere, and follow", wherein "join" is substituted for "stick".

I have seen many really good Chinese teachers use these words almost interchangeably  -  that is, 'join' meaning the same thing as 'stick'; the words 'adhere' and 'follow' seem to be used generally in the same sense that I described them.

I was also really interested in getting these statements out there:  

"Self-defense in TCC is really defense against your 'Self ', and push-hands is the training method whereby you learn this fact".

And: "Push-hands is really not about 'doing' or 'cognizing',  so much as about 'being' in and maintaining a certain condition within your own body system; the goal is to have your 'body-mind' say "Yes" to everything your opponent throws at you, while at the same time using your relaxed but alert 'listening' energy to accurately detect the exact moment that his body-system says "No".

Also, practiced in this way, the 'attitudes' and reactions programmed into the body-system in push-hands can easily be carried over into free-fighting.

Kalama Sutta (Kalama Sutra)

Do not simply believe what you hear just because you have heard it for a long time.
Do no follow tradition blindly merely because it has been practiced that way for many generations.
Do not be quick to listen to rumors.
Do not confirm anything just because it agrees with your scriptures.
Do not foolishly make assumptions.
Do not abruptly draw conclusions by what you see and hear.
Do not be fooled by outward appearances.
Do not hold on tightly to any view or idea just because you are comfortable with it.
Do not accept as fact anything that you yourself find to be illogical.
Do not be convinced of anything out of respect and deference to your spiritual teachers.

You should go beyond opinion and belief. You can rightly reject anything which when accepted, practiced and perfected leads to more aversion, more craving and more delusion. They are not beneficial and are to be avoided. Conversely, you can rightly accept anything which when accepted and practiced leads to unconditional love, contentment and wisdom. These things allow you time and space to develop a happy and peaceful mind. This should be your criteria on what is and what is not the truth; on what should be and what should not be the spiritual practice.

-The Buddha

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